Comments on: More on the Affiliation Shuffle http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/ We cannot always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future - FDR Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:03:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Wooden U. Lykteneau http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-836 Wooden U. Lykteneau Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:51:37 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-836 <p>Potomac is on the verge of building a new stadium - the county meets on this on 9/13 - which would further indicate that the P-Nats are staying put.</p> Potomac is on the verge of building a new stadium - the county meets on this on 9/13 - which would further indicate that the P-Nats are staying put.

]]> By: BristowNats http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-837 BristowNats Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:48:28 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-837 <p>Too bad it will be in the same crappy location as the current one. This team was 7th in attendance in an 8-team league, recreating a mediocre-at-best situation won't fix that. Move it to Old Town Manassas!</p> Too bad it will be in the same crappy location as the current one. This team was 7th in attendance in an 8-team league, recreating a mediocre-at-best situation won’t fix that. Move it to Old Town Manassas!

]]> By: Wooden U. Lykteneau http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-840 Wooden U. Lykteneau Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:24:27 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-840 <p>I've yet to see a situation where moving a team further away from major transportation routes and major population centers actually improved attendance, never mind the costs associated with (a) securing the land (b) beating back the NIMBYs. Currently, neither (a) nor (b) is an issue whereas these would both be issues for OTM. Furthermore, the current attendance on the weekends is as good as anyone else's in the league.</p> I’ve yet to see a situation where moving a team further away from major transportation routes and major population centers actually improved attendance, never mind the costs associated with (a) securing the land (b) beating back the NIMBYs. Currently, neither (a) nor (b) is an issue whereas these would both be issues for OTM. Furthermore, the current attendance on the weekends is as good as anyone else’s in the league.

]]> By: Tom http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-841 Tom Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:39:29 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-841 <p>Jamestown is in the Northwestern corner of New Jersey. Near the Delaware River Water Gap. Near where NJ/PA/NY come together. It's hard to get to and don't try to book a room during thePocono 500 weekend.</p> Jamestown is in the Northwestern corner of New Jersey. Near the Delaware River Water Gap. Near where NJ/PA/NY come together.
It’s hard to get to and don’t try to book a room during thePocono 500 weekend.

]]> By: Brian J Oliver http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-842 Brian J Oliver Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:57:51 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-842 <p>Tom, are you sure? The Jamestown Jammers, I thought, were based in Chautauqua Countyin SW NY. Directions from their website have them in Jamestown, NY (716) area code</p> Tom, are you sure? The Jamestown Jammers, I thought, were based in Chautauqua Countyin SW NY. Directions from their website have them in Jamestown, NY (716) area code

]]> By: BristowNats http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-843 BristowNats Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:45:18 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-843 <p>OTM is not near transportation routes?!?! I-66 & Rte 28 are near there and provide better access to Ffx than 123 or Yates Ford Rd.</p> <p>Property: The old police station at the Courthouse is still County property and is surrounded by parking lots but, in the end, this would have to be approved at some level by Manassas which leads us to the old farts and the NiMBYs you mentioned. The County can keep whatever business deals it has with the stadium and the OTM businesses get the eaters and drinkers before and after the game.</p> <p>Population Center: The Manassas population center beats the residential Coles district surounding the stadium by a mile and would be a better able to deliver fans during the week than the Coles/Woodbridge folks who just spent 12+ hours away from home. If the Potomac weekend attendance is as solid as you say then that highlights how abysmal it is during the week.</p> <p>I give the team credit, they create a good family atmosphere. Too bad they have been hamstrung by a poor product and a mediocre location.</p> OTM is not near transportation routes?!?! I-66 & Rte 28 are near there and provide better access to Ffx than 123 or Yates Ford Rd.

Property: The old police station at the Courthouse is still County property and is surrounded by parking lots but, in the end, this would have to be approved at some level by Manassas which leads us to the old farts and the NiMBYs you mentioned. The County can keep whatever business deals it has with the stadium and the OTM businesses get the eaters and drinkers before and after the game.

Population Center: The Manassas population center beats the residential Coles district surounding the stadium by a mile and would be a better able to deliver fans during the week than the Coles/Woodbridge folks who just spent 12+ hours away from home. If the Potomac weekend attendance is as solid as you say then that highlights how abysmal it is during the week.

I give the team credit, they create a good family atmosphere. Too bad they have been hamstrung by a poor product and a mediocre location.

]]> By: Wooden U. Lykteneau http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-872 Wooden U. Lykteneau Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:04:35 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2006/08/29/more-on-the-affiliation-shuffle/#comment-872 <p>No argument on how sparse the crowds are midweek, but that's common across a lot minor leagues - a new stadium does help secure more season-ticket sales, which, in turn boosts attendance #s (which are, basically: season tickets + Group Sales + walkup)</p> <p>I would, however, have to argue that Rte. 28 and I-66 aren't any better than 123 or Yates Ford Rd. for Ffx folks (currently at least). In fact, I take the latter to avoid the traffic on 28S when I'm not driving from my work in Alexandria. Can't really speak for I-66, except that when I listen in on my XM radio, I don't usually hear anything other than "traffic is crawling from Centreville to Gainesville." That may improve when 66 is finished, but that brings us back to the NIMBYs...</p> No argument on how sparse the crowds are midweek, but that’s common across a lot minor leagues - a new stadium does help secure more season-ticket sales, which, in turn boosts attendance #s (which are, basically: season tickets + Group Sales + walkup)

I would, however, have to argue that Rte. 28 and I-66 aren’t any better than 123 or Yates Ford Rd. for Ffx folks (currently at least). In fact, I take the latter to avoid the traffic on 28S when I’m not driving from my work in Alexandria. Can’t really speak for I-66, except that when I listen in on my XM radio, I don’t usually hear anything other than “traffic is crawling from Centreville to Gainesville.” That may improve when 66 is finished, but that brings us back to the NIMBYs…

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