Comments on: Flores Update & Transactions http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/ We cannot always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future - FDR Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:17:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Hendo http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38071 Hendo Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:21:27 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38071 <p>So there are currently about five spots open on the 40-man roster. Makes me wonder: how freely can guys be moved on and off the 40-man in the offseason?</p> <p>Let's imagine, for example, that Garrett Mock -- now unprotected -- were to find his third or fourth pitch and started mowing 'em down in the AFL. Would the FO have time to stick him onto the 40-man before he got drafted away via Rule 5?</p> So there are currently about five spots open on the 40-man roster. Makes me wonder: how freely can guys be moved on and off the 40-man in the offseason?

Let’s imagine, for example, that Garrett Mock — now unprotected — were to find his third or fourth pitch and started mowing ‘em down in the AFL. Would the FO have time to stick him onto the 40-man before he got drafted away via Rule 5?

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38072 Brian Oliver Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:26:52 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38072 <p>Keep in mind that there will be more openings on the 40-man when Fick files for free agency and depending upon who the Nationals offer arbitration to. That is potentially a long list. I believe the Nationals can find room for guys like Mock. They still can remove Mike O'Connor from the 40-man. Ryan Langerhans is another one.</p> Keep in mind that there will be more openings on the 40-man when Fick files for free agency and depending upon who the Nationals offer arbitration to. That is potentially a long list. I believe the Nationals can find room for guys like Mock. They still can remove Mike O’Connor from the 40-man. Ryan Langerhans is another one.

]]> By: hartmanbirge http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38117 hartmanbirge Thu, 18 Oct 2007 04:29:46 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38117 <p>I am glad that the clean out has begun in earnest - we have way too many marginal players and prospects hanging around and it muddles things. Simontachi was one such. I think that Munoz has a real chance to be part of the pen in 08. What does somewhat surprise me about the above is Booker and Abreu. I thought that they could be serviceable bullpen guys at the ML level and that they would have value. I wonder what it was about them that led organization to conclude otherwise? I know that neither set the house on fire when called up but I also know that neither had what I'd call a very good opportunity to prove themselves either... can't judge a guy properly on only a few innings. So perhaps it's a combination of age and lack of stuff......</p> I am glad that the clean out has begun in earnest - we have way too many marginal players and prospects hanging around and it muddles things. Simontachi was one such. I think that Munoz has a real chance to be part of the pen in 08. What does somewhat surprise me about the above is Booker and Abreu. I thought that they could be serviceable bullpen guys at the ML level and that they would have value. I wonder what it was about them that led organization to conclude otherwise? I know that neither set the house on fire when called up but I also know that neither had what I’d call a very good opportunity to prove themselves either… can’t judge a guy properly on only a few innings. So perhaps it’s a combination of age and lack of stuff……

]]> By: Hendo http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38145 Hendo Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:24:00 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38145 <p>And, of course, Mock's not really exposed anyway because the Rule 5 service time exemption increased from three years to four in the 2006 CBA. But the point about O'Connor et al. is understood.</p> And, of course, Mock’s not really exposed anyway because the Rule 5 service time exemption increased from three years to four in the 2006 CBA. But the point about O’Connor et al. is understood.

]]> By: Mark http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38150 Mark Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:17:52 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38150 <p>I'm curious as well about Booker and Abreu, what are their ages? That would be the only thing that would make sense, unless there's something behind the story that we don't know.</p> I’m curious as well about Booker and Abreu, what are their ages? That would be the only thing that would make sense, unless there’s something behind the story that we don’t know.

]]> By: Brian Oliver http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38153 Brian Oliver Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:29:32 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38153 <p>Mark - Abreu is 30 (31 in April) and Booker is 30 (31 in December). Both are the stereotypical AAAA players. Good enough to dominate Triple-A but always seem to struggle in the major leagues</p> Mark - Abreu is 30 (31 in April) and Booker is 30 (31 in December). Both are the stereotypical AAAA players. Good enough to dominate Triple-A but always seem to struggle in the major leagues

]]> By: Kirk http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38154 Kirk Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:18:01 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38154 <p><i>Mark - Abreu is 30 (31 in April) and Booker is 30 (31 in December). Both are the stereotypical AAAA players. Good enough to dominate Triple-A but always seem to struggle in the major leagues</i></p> <p>How old is Rafael Betancourt? 32. Didn't sniff the bigs till he was 28. Now he's a shut down set up guy. I would sign him to a long term deal but would the Tribe be up 3-1 with out him?</p> <p>Not saying Abreu or Booker will be the next Betancourt. Just saying that the so-called AAAA guys sometimes work out.</p> Mark - Abreu is 30 (31 in April) and Booker is 30 (31 in December). Both are the stereotypical AAAA players. Good enough to dominate Triple-A but always seem to struggle in the major leagues

How old is Rafael Betancourt? 32. Didn’t sniff the bigs till he was 28. Now he’s a shut down set up guy. I would sign him to a long term deal but would the Tribe be up 3-1 with out him?

Not saying Abreu or Booker will be the next Betancourt. Just saying that the so-called AAAA guys sometimes work out.

]]> By: Tofu Dog http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38177 Tofu Dog Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:52:53 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38177 <p>Good point on Betancourt, but there are twelve pretty capable pitchers on the active roster even after these demotions. When you add the ones who accepted the Columbus assignment and then R Wagner and Patterson and the others from the minors like Balester who could conceivably compete for spots in the spring, then I cannot see the need to have Abreu around since he had several shots and was never consistent. If guys like Paul Byrd are available, I would rather spend the time and money worrying about those ugly duckling types rather than Abreu and Booker.</p> Good point on Betancourt, but there are twelve pretty capable pitchers on the active roster even after these demotions. When you add the ones who accepted the Columbus assignment and then R Wagner and Patterson and the others from the minors like Balester who could conceivably compete for spots in the spring, then I cannot see the need to have Abreu around since he had several shots and was never consistent. If guys like Paul Byrd are available, I would rather spend the time and money worrying about those ugly duckling types rather than Abreu and Booker.

]]> By: Mark http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38198 Mark Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:00:58 +0000 http://farmauthority.dcsportsnet.com/2007/10/17/flores-update-transactions/#comment-38198 <p>Thanks for the insight, it all makes a lot more sense now. Although that's a good point on Betancourt, who's been lights out all year.</p> Thanks for the insight, it all makes a lot more sense now. Although that’s a good point on Betancourt, who’s been lights out all year.

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